The Financial Times Tech Tonic podcast covers the crypto lobby’s enormous influence in its series “A sceptic’s guide to crypto.” They spoke with our Dennis Kelleher about the stunning amount of money being spent and how it could impact our entire financial system.

“It’s shocking, but often very intelligent people don’t stop and say, ‘Well, that really sounds like a bunch of baloney.’ When that baloney is delivered wrapped in literally tens & tens of millions of dollars & lobbying expenses, it has an overwhelming impact.”